Hawaii up to No. 6

September 23rd, 2013
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Sorry, getting a slow start this morning

Hawaii up to a spot to No. 6.

Last week's No. 2 San Diego took a big hit, falling to No. 8 after being swept at BYU.. It moved everyone else up a spot

1. Penn State, 53 votes, stay;s at 1

2. Washington, 5 votes, up a spot to 3

3. Florida, up a spot to  5

4. USC, 2 votes, up a spot to 5

5. Texas (nice five-set win over Nebraska), up to 6

6 Hawaii up from 7

7. Stanford up from 8

8. USD down from 2

everyone else 9-13 stayed put, including Nebraska at No. 12

back in a bit

http://www.avca.org/divisions/division-one-women/poll-9-23-13di/

29 Responses to “Hawaii up to No. 6”

  1. Andrew:

    As long as UH stays consistent and repeats its success in Big West from last year, I see them breaking top 3 by the end of the season. When Washington and USC begin Pac-12 play they'll probably get a couple losses considering the toughness of the conference. Penn State and Florida probably will run the table in their conferences, although I could see Penn State possibly dropping a match againt an improving Big 10.


  2. Cindy Luis:

    probably what they need for their RPI is for all the teams they play to keep winning. They got help there with Texas beating Nebraska for sure.


  3. Andrew:

    Cindy, if Hawaii's RPI remains within the top 10 even through the end of the season, do you see the NCAA having no choice but to let Hawaii host? or do you see them sending the Wahine to the mainland again?


  4. LC:

    Everything is pointing to a high RPI for the first announcement but that will quickly change once we start conferenceplay.

    Last that I read from those who attempt to mimic the RPI:
    RKPI - 3rd
    Pablo - 2nd
    Massey Ratings - 3


  5. Cindy Luis:

    thanks LC. Was in the midst of some PacWest stuff. Agree with you that thinks will change once they hit the Big West but they were stiff hovering top 16 for the selection Sunday 'tweaking'
    Hawaii's RKPI higher now than it was last year heading into conference play.
    3. you never know. UH can only control what they can control, and that is how they play on the court. No control over how their opponents or their opponents' opponents do.


  6. setaone:

    If Hawaii's RPI is top 10 at the end of the season, it will be really hard for the committee to not seed Hawaii. RPI lower than 10 will give the committee reason not to seed Hawaii.

    Seeding is based on several pieces, RPI seemingly being the main factor.


  7. Maverick:

    2. So here are three rules of thumb for maximizing UH's RPI:

    (a) UH to win as many of its remaining matches as possible.
    (b) UH's non-conference opponents to win as many of their remaining matches as possible.
    (c) UH's conference opponents to win as many of their non-conference matches as possible. As the non-conference season is all but over, this rule is no longer relevant--what's done is done.


  8. Cindy Luis:

    6. Not I completely agree. But it does seem that the NCAA will try to justify what ever they decide.
    7. Yep.


  9. Maverick:

    8. And for those who think we should care about Big West ("BW") conference matches not involving UH, we really dont for the following reason: assuming BW team A plays BW team B, a win by BW team A will increase UH's RPI but the loss by BW team B will decrease UH's RPI, so it is a wash.

    Also consider this: assume UH goes 16-0 during the conference season. That means that the cumulative W-L conference record of everyone else in the BW will result in 16 more losses than wins, a negative result on UH's RPI but unavoidable (note that the cumulative W-L conference record for all BW teams is .500--for every win there is a loss). Fortunately, UH's 16 wins will have a greater impact on its RPI than the net 16 losses of the remaining BW teams.


  10. Warriorfan:

    Anyone know if the big west player of the week has been announced? It should be Emily!!


  11. Maverick:

    Hartong won Big West athlete of the week honors for volleyball:

    http://www.bigwest.org/aotw.asp


  12. Sharene:

    I just think that if the NCAA also included profit that UH hosting should be a given...but I know they don't. It pained me to see how little fans were in the stands at one of the playoffs...we have more people watching the first game during tournaments when UH isn't playing than were at that game.


  13. Sharene:

    I agree with Cindy #8. I remember going to bed thinking we had it in the bag...was it last year and to wake up finding some ranking randomly changed so we didn't fit the criteria


  14. OrbitalRipZ:

    Of the weekly AVCA Top 25 (Sept 23), the BIG TEN showcases 7 teams. At the end of or 1-match-left in the nonconference season, the BIG TEN has only 1 of its 12-team members playing with a losing record -- #24 Illinois (4-6).

    The PAC-12 showcases 6 Top 25ers. At the end of the nonconference season, every 1 of the 12-member Pac-12 teams is playing over .500. Don't think there's another conference that can boast that fact.

    (Disappointed that none -- or not more than 1 -- of the AVCA voters decided to overlook regional/conference politics and reward either Washington State or Missouri with a vote for completing the nonconference season undefeated. Granted that it's likely that both will join the once-defeated ranks as conference season begins this week, but that's besides the point.)

    Go Bows!


  15. Warriorfan:

    UW and Missouri's preseason schedules were a joke.


  16. Cindy Luis:

    11. Thanks. see new thread. had been posting it on our breaking news website first.


  17. OrbitalRipZ:

    Re: 14 Forgot the SEC, which like the Pac-12 also has all its members playing over .500 at the end of the nonconf. season.

    Re: 15 There are many teams whose nonconf. season can be called a "joke," but that doesn't mean all of them are still undefeated. But I agree that undefeated UDub's nonconf. play has been a "joke" -- for the nation's #2 team! (If the Dawgs were unranked at this time, I wouldn't call their nonconf. season a "joke.")


  18. Ki Mo:

    Amazed how some of these coaches cast there votes for the Weekly AVCA Coaches Poll. Todd Dagenais, Karen Chisum, and Molly Avery to name a few. Do they NOT know that HAWAII SWEPT UCLA a few weeks ago? Yet they keep putting UCLA ahead of Hawaii on their ballot. UNREAL!


  19. Cindy Luis:

    it might be that they looked more at the loss to USD than the sweep of UCLA, which means they weren't respecting USD. Who knows.


  20. Maverick:

    Also, victory over UCLA was a couple of weeks ago. Voters' memories are short term and likely not to correct an error from the past.


  21. Ki Mo:

    Maybe so, but what's up with Mike Sealy's vote placing UCLA over HAWAII. It wasn't even a close match. Go figure..


  22. Warriorfan:

    21. Is that correct? that makes no sense. shame on Sealy if true.


  23. Ki Mo:

    Unfortunately YES. If you want to check out how each coach voted today, click on VOTER BALLOTS. http://www.avca.org/divisions/division-one-women/polls/


  24. surfboy:

    #21 Mike Sealy placed Hawaii at #2 for the coaches poll this week...please click under 'Week 4' tab.


  25. Ki Mo:

    YIKES!! My error. No wonder nothing on that poll made sense to me. Thanks surfboy.


  26. Cubicle1126:

    i like hawaii's chances of their RPI holding steady. the teams on the non-conference portion of their scheduled have an aggregate win/loss record of 91-47. that's solid! there are only 2 teams who hawaii played in the non-conference who currently have losing records -- New Mexico St (5-7) and Portland St (4-7), but i suspect they will start picking up wins as conference play begins, because those two teams are expects to challenge for and/or win their respective conferences.

    on the conference side, the Big West teams have an aggregate win/loss record of 53-49 (not including hawaii's 11-1 record). not great, but it's above .500, and at this point, we can work with that. as another poster mentioned, the conference matches -- once it's all played -- will be a wash, and a .500 will get averaged in there.

    so hawaii's RPI hopes will rest on the teams on the non-conference portion of the schedule continuing to win. we don't need to worry about teams like texas or san diego (even though they lost to byu over the weekend. both those teams will have very good win/loss records by the end of the season, even if they pick up a couple losses in conference.

    teams like new mexico st, portland st, south dakota, creighton, wichita st, and maybe even utep, will likely pick up a lot of wins in conference on their way to winning or challenging (or at the very least being in the top half) of their respective conferences.

    hawaii needs teams like santa clara to get some unexpected wins in conference (like their win over pepperdine), but not lose to anyone they should or can beat (like the loss to LMU) in conference.

    and hawaii needs teams like ucla, arizona and northwestern to hold their own in the power conferences. ucla and arizona will likely finish middle of the pack in the Pac-12, but northwestern might finish near the bottom of the Big-10.

    overall though, hawaii has a good non-conference schedule ... which has a strong chance of sustaining their RPI for a seed. but, of course, we still gotta see how the rest of the season plays out.


  27. Grammy:

    Okay, I'm gonna start with the obvious, I'm old. I try not to waste my time speculating on what's gonna happen with things out of my control. (Could be the meds.) I think the Wahine have to play and defend their court and win their league/conference, too, which is very do-able. What is out of their hands will remain so whatever is written/said here. Cindy and Ann have been through this for most of their time reporting and despite many reasons for the hardcore Hawaii's fans, it will be so again this year. Get used to it cause it is what it is. Support your/our team and the UH Volleyball and other programs, players and coaches. Go Wahine!


  28. surfboy:

    25. No Problem


  29. OhanaInBellingham:

    26. was wonktastic, Cubicle1126! Thank you!