Do we need a rewind tonight

March 3rd, 2013
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Not seeing the need to rehash what we have been for the past 20 minutes or so on the other thread.

the SC matches are must-wins. lose those two and pretty much they aren't making the playoffs. still a tough road trip at Cal Baptist after that. and UOP, UCSB and UCSD are no pushovers  UCSB nearly won at BYU and beat host UCLA.

35 Responses to “Do we need a rewind tonight”

  1. dedicatedfan:

    Cindy, have those 2 Hawaii High School players sent in their LOI, or is it just verbal commits? Also, are they 2 of best coming out of Hawaii High School this year?


  2. Alohilani:

    OK I know I have been guilty of complaining before but do you not think all the guys know what they need to do to win? I am starting to feel bad for them because you can see they are trying but they just may not have the mental toughness at this point. I agree maybe saying they are young is maybe an excuse but according to Charlie, Northridge is probably the oldest team in the conference. Northridge may act like punks and 10 year olds on the floor but experience wise they are older. The team probably also know that if Charlie doesn't come through this year or so, his job may be on the line. That's a lot for 18-20 year olds to handle. It's not being said out loud but I'm sure the guys have heard that. I do agree that I don't really think it's a good idea for them to go to the playoffs because they will face either BYU or Irvine. Not sure if they can beat either of them, however, on the other hand, it would be good to see them make the playoffs for mental purposes.


  3. warriorfan:

    I just dont understand the mentally that it would be a bad idea to make the playoffs and run into BYU or Irvine, that's just not the way a competitor should be thinking. You want a chance to upset a team like that. It's definitely better than staying at home and watching the playoffs on the computer.
    I think they can still make the playoffs, but they need to go out and play to the level they did against Pepperdine.


  4. dedicatedfan:

    Warriorfan, the BIG question is, can they do that? Do they have that mental toughness? Can they learn how to be mentally tough in 5 days? Sorry, those are 3 BIG questions.


  5. rayson:

    Still don't think they're good but Northridge up their game tonight and they were better prepared than UH was. Don't know what to say about Hawaii's performance. I do think they were out-coached tonight. Northridge was prepared for everything Hawaii threw at them and Hawaii didn't have an answer.

    Also Kanetake played well why is he sitting on the bench. Use him more. He can't redshirt already why waste his year. Not saying he should replace Cheepe but the kid is quick and deserves more playing time.


  6. warriorfan:

    I think Kanetake has some passing issues. Definitely won't disagree that they were outcoached. Northridge has no all star players... very irritating losing to them twice.


  7. Safinator:

    The Warriors were flat and played catch up in every game. It's all mental with these guys. Talent is there, but the mind wanders too much with this team.


  8. Ron:

    Cindy, you were lucky to be at home, it was very painful to watch in person. This not a team with heart. No real leader. The skill is there but they are inconsistent at best. I hope that because their diverse backgrounds, it is just taking them longer to jell as a team. We need to sweep USC.


  9. tiffers:

    @dedicated fan,
    You pose a lot of questions, so let me try to help you out.
    -Regarding the two local boys, i'm unsure if it's verbal or if they have officially signed. the two you're referring to are Kupono Fey (OH from Punahou) and Nainoa Frank (can play MB or OPP from Kalaheo; remember he got hurt in at the end of football season, unsure if it was an ACL or MCL tear or partial tear, he sat out the basketball season, so I highly doubt he's ready for HS volleyball season that's underway, so likely he'll rehab and come back strong for UH in fall camp.
    -Those are two of the better seniors in this year's class. Don't forget about Hawaii Baptist's Michael Fisher (6'7" OH) who has already signed with UCLA.
    -Right now, UH plays teams that are in 8th/9th/10th/12th/13th place in the MPSF, so the schedule is there for the Warriors to make a run and somehow make the top 8. I feel their toughest matchup is next week at Cal Baptist, but this week hosting USC is a must sweep situation (like Ron said) for Hawai'i. having lost 4 of their last 5 and not looking too good vs. Northridge this week, they need these two matches at home vs. USC.
    -If they can get into the tournament and avoid playing BYU in the quarterfinals, I feel they can make a run. playing at Provo is very hard to do and probably the toughest venue to play at in the MPSF. UH has proven that they can hang with the top teams (took UCI to 5, took LBSU to 5, swept Pepperdine and split with Stanford; that other loss vs. the Cardinal went to 5 and UH had a chance in that match).
    @both warriorfan and rayson,
    -With Kanetake, he played the first week of the season but struggled in the limelight; Cheape was really the only libero after that as the 2nd libero was used sparingly up until the UCLA/UCI road-trip where Harrison Phelps played well and took over the 2nd libero spot. no one was sure how JP would do on Sunday after being out Friday with an illness. with Jace not playing well Friday and having no other OH to come in, we saw more of Kanetake as the 2nd libero on Sunday because Phelps was needed as an emergency OH in case JP couldn't go the whole match or if someone needed a break. As HC Charlie Wade said on Friday, Jace had a good week of practice and statisically was the best OH in those practices, it just didn't translate into that match on Friday. Agreed Kanetake has already played in matches this year and can't be redshirted, so we could see more of Kanetake as the 2nd libero with Phelps as an emergency OH the rest of the year.
    of course it's really up to the team and how they want to finish these last 10 matches. if they want to make the tournament, they have to play like the more desperate team and treat each of the last 10 matches like a must-win situation and it all starts Friday vs. USC


  10. Purple&Green:

    Shoji should schedule a weedend's (worth of) 'scrimmages' with Sunahara. Reed could throw together some makeshift all-star team and fly them over from Orange County toward the, near, end of the season.

    Top 25 teams will be:
    Texas, San Diego, UCLA, LBSU (2x)..but that's it unfortunately.

    San Diego / LBSU will be bottom dwellers moreover.
    ---
    49ers, in a modified 6-2..

    Ss: PSU recruit 5.10 Juley (her sub being OR recruit 6.2 Mackie) / World Beach Champ 5.11 Roenicke (a 6 rotation player)

    MBs: All-Ams 6.6 Hampton & 6.2 Okpala

    OHs: #1 6.1 Aigner-Swesey & tOSU recruit 5.11 Reid

    Opp: Mackie (her sub being Juley)

    Libero: Hawai'i recruit 5.8 Jackson


  11. dedicatedfan:

    Just thinking out loud. Would be interesting to see the Wahine scrimmage the Warriors, wondering what would happen. If anything, the Wahine can teach the Warriors something about inner fortitude (guts). Cause the Warriors definitely do not have that. You never see a Wahine team ever give up, like the Warriors have done.


  12. vballfreak808:

    The Warriors stay at No.11 this week. Harvard is out and UCSB is in at No.14


  13. Purple&Green:

    There lineup is kapakahi..should've gone with another SET linup from the get-go. At this point in the season it's a little late. Confidence/wherewithal goes a looong way in vb. The game is 85% mental; 15% physical. From the start, 'til now, IF certain ones had played they'd be kicking it into second gear down the MPSF stretch. Poho!

    This UH-MVB never had a true Opp to start with. They were already behind the eight-ball when they were left experimenting with Marks/Sedore/Timmer in that position. Unfortunate for the team, but Marks should've continued @ Opp--NOW replaced by a 'waiting in the wings' Sedore or Timmer, possibly.

    Jace/Kanetake, combined, should've been OH2 and West MB1 right off the bat also. Anybody know what West was needing to be taught on the sidelines this 2013?..Seriously?! Averill is a SETTER...come on!

    Charlie is a WVB coach.
    Dunno.


  14. Purple&Green:

    Their


  15. vballfreak808:

    West has been injured for a majority of the season which has kept him out for a while. They were resting him but he seems to have been better now.


  16. setaone:

    No way will a Wahine team hang with the Men.


  17. Warrior an:

    10. You really are an idiot, Jesus!

    Anyway since I am bored

    I just wanna state I love the wahine but they would be served and blocked off the court by the warriors !

    Also if the wahine played in a conference as tough as the mpsf they would probably lose some of this inner fortitude after some losses, you know how they were on the road and against big west teams!


  18. Purple&Green:

    setaone,

    Drop the net to 7'7" and give me my specific choices of 3rd team MVB players / 1st team WVB players (alum included) and you'd have a match...gauranz!


  19. Ron:

    No one who knows V-ball would ever say the women would have a chance against the men. In volleyball, size matters!


  20. Purple&Green:

    ^
    "MY"
    ...& you don't know the titas that exist in HI. ;-)
    Someone else could come up with a lineup of benchwarming men vs. Wahine all-stars 2008-13.
    I'm not going to do so.


  21. vballfreak808:

    The AVCA made a poll for this upcoming sand season and Hawaii is ranked fifth

    http://www.avca.org/sand/poll/


  22. Cindy Luis:

    West has been sidelined with strained abdominal. have mentioned this several times.


  23. Cindy Luis:

    Thanks for the line VBF


  24. Cindy Luis:

    P&G, you drop the net and the men will hammer the ball all night. the only way that might be fair is to limit the men to 3-meter attack. but what would be the point then?


  25. dedicatedfan:

    Cindy, you really think so. I have faith in Dave Shoji, he will have the men looking awfully silly. For one thing, the men do not have a setter worth a grain of salt. Also, their outside hitters, are so inconsistent, it is just not funny. I would love to see that match.


  26. dedicatedfan:

    Cindy, guess we needed a rewind after all.


  27. jmy:

    I know that there are extenuating circumstances, but from a fan's point of view, it's frustrating to watch a team that has not really made any significant gains these past 3-4 years...I think a lot of fans are waiting for them to have that breakthrough season...


  28. Cindy Luis:

    DF, yes, really. It would be no contest. It's why some women's programs choose to use male practice players to simulate more power and higher block. You lower the net, let's just compare setters. Uiato at 5-8 is no match for Wechsung at 6-6. Men can put up 6-6, 6-5, 6-6 front row. Wahine have no corresponding height. they might win some rallies just on defense but not over a whole match.


  29. jmy:

    Could the women raise the net during practice? I know the Cuban women's team used to do that...


  30. dedicatedfan:

    Can the women practice against the men? If, and when they hold their own against the men, that would translate into a National Championship caliber team. Since, as Cindy stated, the men will be over 6'5, there are no Women's Teams that are as tall as that.


  31. Cindy Luis:

    Yes they can do what ever they want with the net in practice. Former Wahine assistants used to stand on box to hit balls down on the players as well as put up a bigger block. There are some rules regarding who can practice against women's teams. Believe it can't be varsity male athletes but have to be students enrolled at the institution. NCAA strict on that issue. Also depends on numbers, such as not having enough for full scrimmages. I know that when Ryan Tsuji was in the Wahine program he had to be cleared to practice with the team because he wasn't a student but a volunteer. this was when Kari Ambrozich was on maternity leave, if I remember correctly.


  32. Purple&Green:

    a WVB Team..I'm not putting together a men's short/mediocre/jumbled '13 team out of respect--

    MBs: 2010 All-American 6.3 Hewitt / (Hit .364 against a MIGHTY #2 '09 Texas team) 6.4 Forsythe

    Opp: 2009 VBM All-American 6.0 Kaufman

    OHs: 2011&12 All-American 6.2 Hartong / 2008 All-American 6.1 Houston

    Libero: 2011 NPOY 5.10 Danielson
    DS: ('cause I 'R'ealy like her) 5.6 Maeda

    Setter: 2009&10 HM All-American 5.10 Mafua..heck, Ah-Mow is everything UH why not her also?!

    Subs*your choice*(outta a modified 6-2) for Mafua: 2009 All-American 5.11 Cubi-Otineru/ 2012 All-American 6.0 Croson/2009 Regional All-Tourney 6.1 Ferrell

    Pls. If that wouldn't be a match, I don't know what would!


  33. Hot:

    Purple&Green, capita'L'ove, etc., your unique brand of crazy comes out whatever username you use.

    Steve, stop with the creepiness already.

    tiffers, why the need to pull Harrison Phelps as the second libero and have him as backup OH? Can't Scott Hartley do the backup OH duties?


  34. White&Green&Black&Yellow&Fuschia:

    OHs: 2001, 2002 & 2003 All-American 6.0 Kim Willoughby; 2000, 2002 & 2003 All-American 6.2 Lily Kahumoku

    MBs: 1998 & 1999 All-American 6.3 Heather Bown; 2010 All-American 6.4 Brittany Hewitt

    Setter: 2003, 2004, 2005 & 2006 All-American 5.8 Kanoe Kamana'o

    Opposite: 2011 & 2012 All-American 6.2 Emily Hartong

    Libero: 2008, 2009, 2010 & 2011 All-American 5.10 Kanani Danielson

    Libero 2: 2005 All-Region 5.6 Ashley Watanabe

    DS: 2002 & 2003 All-American 5.6 Melissa Villaroman

    Subs:
    OHs: 2006 All-American HM 6.3 Sarah Mason, 2006 & 2008 All-American 6.1 Jamie Houston
    MBs: 2000 All-Region 6.3 Maja Gustin, 2006 All-WAC 6.3 Kari Gregory, 6.4 Alexis Forsythe
    Setter: 1999, 2000 & 2002 All-WAC 6.1 Jennifer Carey
    Opposite: 6.2 Jessica Keefe, 2009 All-American HM 6.0 Amber Kaufman
    DS/Servers: 5.2 Jayme Lee, 5.5 Kelly Ong, 5.6 Emily Maeda


  35. tiffers:

    @Hot,
    looking at the season stats, Hartley hasn't played all year. perhaps HC Charlie Wade is trying to redshirt him or he's just really far down on the OH depth chart. yes he played sparingly in the last two seasons